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Old February 27th, 2012, 02:20 PM
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Here is a Dickson (ALCO) advertisement from 1903. This builder's photo is "Josephine" shop number1014 built in 1898 for a different sugar plantation in Louisiana, and is nearly identical to "Mary Ann P" (Gen Sam) we have running at SFOT.

ALCO historic photos holds the original glass plate negative and is a better image.

The "Mary Ann P" (Gen Sam) was the first of a second batch of this class to be built, but apparently never photographed.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 09:07 PM
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Old Isadore must have been pulling down some serious cash to afford four locomotives. I know this is not on topic but how much did one of these things cost?
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Old February 29th, 2012, 11:47 PM
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The actual cost would be interesting to know...I just tried searching for some alco or porter catalogs that included price lists, but I haven't seen anything so far.

Wow, thanks for all the info Cameron, the locomotive definitely looked different when it rolled out of the factory. It's interesting what a difference converting it from a forney made. I seem to remember one of the photos you posted showing that they hauled a regular tender in addition to the small bunker already on the engine when it was still at the plantation. Do you think that tender came from another Dickson locomotive or maybe they built it from scratch?

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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:05 AM
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Actually, the newspaper article got a few things wrong. Simeon Patout brought the family from France, planted sugarcane, and set up a horse-powered mill. Mary Ann (daughter-in-law of Simeon) and her son Hippolyte Jr. (“Bub”) took the necessary risk to expand the factory and ultimately build the railroad. They acted on a daring plan for their time.

The cost of a locomotive would be a substantial sum, especially in an uncertain industry like Louisiana sugar, over a couple of thousand (1890s) dollars at least. Many factory owners would start with only one locomotive. That is what “Messrs Patout” did.

Porter likely made the tender tank now in use behind the Gen Sam. Some “industrial archeology” could verify that. (The flared tank behind the Patton is original to that locomotive). I hope they keep using (and carefully renew when needed) the old tanks because there are not many of these small Porter tenders left.

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Old February 3rd, 2015, 11:47 PM
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Updated links to Baldwin paint.



http://www.pacificng.com/template.ph...diag/index.htm

http://www.pacificng.com/template.ph...ag/index3.htm4
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